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ubiquitin
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“Well said.”

What was well said? both of the lines before that are my answers to you

Which answer do you accept?

If a meshulach asks me for money, Do you think my replying well I cant help you there are lots of needy people out there is a valid reply?

none of the groups you mentioned are facing death to nearly the same extent (with the possible exception of Africa). It is estimated that around 200,000 people have been killed over the past few years alone.

“First of all Syria is not Nazi Germany performing genocide.”

a) when the st. Louis was sent back there was no genocide in Germany yet. Do you think the US was right to send them back?

b) So you agree that victims of Genocide can come? seems arbitrary but ok I can live with that

“Second they should be going to other ISLAMIC COUNTRIES. “

a) Many of the refugees arent Muslim which is part of the problem and partly what is driving the campaign of violence against them (keep this in mind when you answer “b” above it is a trap)

b) Sadly many of the Islamic countries arent willing to take them

As for your question. Even though it is a new topic and doesnt affect the syrian refugees as I replied earlier. I’ll answer directly

“should we not take all of those people into the US?”

No, much as we shouldnt take all Syrians and shouldnt have taken all Jews in the 30’s. But yes we should (and often do) take what we can.

Please note we arent talking about throwing open the border and letting anybody from Syria in the re is a long vetting process that can take up to 2 years.

Which is why Health’s comment is silly so hopefully you wont agree with it. It is a lot easier to get in a tourist! So leaving syrians to their death wont even prevent what is “happening/happened in Europe will happen here.” The much easier/quicker way in is still open to terrorists. Of the >700,000 refugees allowed in over the past decade 4 were arrested for anything terrorist related (and only one directed against the U.S. On the other hand NONE of the 19 terrorists on 9/11 where refugees!

Now that I answered your question would you be so kind as to answer mine. Here they are again: edited – please be respectful to those you are debating

1. Is it a valid response to tell one meshulach, I cant elp you becasue there are lots of other meshulachim out there?

2. In 1939 before any systematic genocide was taking place Do you think the U.S. was justified in sending back the St. Louis

3. Would you allow those facing Genocide asylum in the U.S. (again, and this goes without saying and is a prerequisite to my point, only if deemed safe by a thorough vetting process