flatbusher
” I don’t know where you got that from.”
history.
Party ideologies have switched multiple times. It was the Democrats who opposed the civil rights act in the 60’s. These where southern Democrats they all vote Republican today. The history of Party politics is long and mutifactorial. the easiest way to see it is to Have a look at the electoral map in the years leading up to Civil rights: 1952, 56, 60 and compare to post civil rights 64, 68. PAy particular attention to the South and watch the color change that remains to today
Crime is down, life expectancy is up, the way we treat minorities is better, the way we treat mentally ill and handicapped is better, reluctance to go to war, when we do go to war way civilans are treated si better and on and on.
Are we perfect? Far from it. And there are certainly many ways in which morality has deteriorated, some of which you have identified.
winnie the pooh
“that lying is a means that justifies the end.”
I dont and thats yet another reaosn why I opposed Trump. (though I oppose Hillary for the same reason, since although she lies less than Trump, it is too much for my taste
“Trump didn’t win because he bullied people into voting for him”
true but if people vote for the guy who came up with “Lyin Ted” “Crooked hillary” “Little Marco” clearly bullying is OK
“In any case, sadly, being president doesn’t mean you are automatically a role model, and every frum kid should be told that our morality and code of behavior is based on the Torah, and not on who is sitting in the White House.”
Oh that is certainly true. I remember as a kid one of my Rebein would say that children’s siddurim and coloring books had it wrong “shelo asani goy” doesnt refer to, as ilustarted in those pictures a drunk homeless etc goy. IT refers to the most prestigious Goy namely the President
but this isnt about being a role model. Of course Bill Clinton was a terrible Role model to say the least, as others have pointed out. Trump, aside from being an equally terrible (ok maybe worse maybe better, lets leave that aside) role model. It is the tactic he used to get ahead, that his supporters have shown works.
The message a sinificant number of people gave on Tuesday (moslty inadvertently, though some because of it, make no mistake) Is: Bully people, mock people, thorugh basic decency to the wind and you too can get ahead in life.