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caarpediiem-thanks so much for your insight and suggestions. Perhaps, from the perspective of one who was OTD, you are right in your assessment of things. But from the perspective of the parents, I find it nearly impossible to sit idly by while my son falls further and further. It’s not just a fall from yiddishkeit, it is a transition into a derelict, one who curses, smokes, stays out all night and (most recently, he admitted) experiments with drugs. He has already prepared us about getting piercings, and socializing with girls. At this point, I would consider anything that could help, including co-parenting. The only thing is, that I was hoping the family atmosphere of our home would help trigger positive feelings. I’m still very loving to my son (when he’s in a normal mood), and try not to react when he’s in one of his angry moods. As much as he is angry with us, I don’t think we were horrible parents and keep hoping that bc we’re not a dysfunctional family, then hopefully (any minute now…?) he’ll snap out of it. I know it’s wishful thinking, but I don’t think he went down this path bc of the home. Would co-parenting be indicated in a functional family? I googled Areivim and they are based in NY, we live in Israel. We have been trying to do Twisted Parenting, and while we agree with the principles behind it, we find it extremely difficult to do consistently. I appreciate your post, and found it to be very helpful. Feel free to offer more suggestions..