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Sorry, I have been busy.

Your main Ta’ana is that most girls who want to learn want to learn for feminist reasons and that it could lead them to bad things down the line. My line of thinking is Chas V’shalom to make girls give up Mitzvos just because some Apikorsim misused them. Do we stop wearing Tztitzis just because many Js for J wear them?

I think I would say it differently; my main tayna is connected to feminism, but I don’t think it is that it will lead to bad things down the line.

I don’t oppose feminism as applied to Judaism because it will lead to taking down the mechitza, or to anything else actually assur. If that was the only concern, I don’t know what my stance would be.

I oppose feminism as applied to Judaism, because it is wrong itself. The entire premise of a girl wanting to apply feminism to Jewish practice, is that Jewish practice otherwise treats women inappropriately. Saying that, is a serious chillul Hashem, and is literally an attack on Hashem and on the Torah. That is what I oppose.

Now look at the difference in focus, between what I’m talking about and what you’re talking about. You’re talking about issurim, and what we need to do, and what we don’t need to do, and what we can get around, and what we can’t get around, and what there is a shitta to rely on, and what there is no shitta to rely on.

My Judaism is not like that. My Judaism is about doing what Hashem wants us to do–that is, what we should

do. And how we should feel, and think. Hashem does not want women to learn gemara–chazal were clear about that. Hashem does not want us to pursue value systems which conflict with the Torah–Hashem wants us to pursue the value system of the Torah.

So you see, that while orthodox religions are usually criticized for making religion into a formalistic system divorced from its values, it is actually the opposite here. The chareidim are the ones trying to live the values of the torah, while I sometimes feel that others are trying to live their own values, and align the Torah with that.

I need to go again, but I’ll think about what your answer would be, and I post again before you do, I’ll try to write one up.