Reply To: Could there be a State of Israel Without the Lomdei Torah? Home › Forums › Rants › Could there be a State of Israel Without the Lomdei Torah? › Reply To: Could there be a State of Israel Without the Lomdei Torah? May 13, 2016 10:32 am at 10:32 am #1151762 Avi KParticipant Thisis an old machloket. See Sanhedrin 49a regarding David and Yoav.