Is one arguing that a Jews who is receiving “welfare” is accepting Tsadakkah from goyim (which assumes the government have the din of “goyim” since in most places the majority of the voters are non-Jews)? Does one distinguish between programs designed to be nice to poor people (food stamps, WIC, Section eight, Medicaid) from those with ulterior motives (subsidized college tuition, free roads, subsidized transit systems, free trash pickups)?
Is one arguing for/against the idea that the government (i.e. the voters, who in America control the government) should vote to tax themselves in order to help the poor?