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MichaelC
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Vayoel Moshe-Satmear Rebba.

Rashi on Shir Shirim on the possuk ‘?? ??????’ explains that the Jews should not increase to much Tephilla to bring redemption, in addition to not rebelling against the nations. There are a number of refutations to prove it only means you shouldnt rebel against the nations, but praying excessively for Geula is okay.

All the known Midrashim, on this Possuk say it means don’t rebel against the nations, it doesent mean you cant daven excessively for redemption.

Its talking about Tzaddikim Gemurim they shouldnt Daven over much for Geula.

Chasam Sofer and Rashba Paskend it okay to daven excessively for redemption.

Its clear that even if the nations would give us permisson to go to Isreal we could not listen to them, even under threat of death or torture (Maharal), the Balfour and San Marino Decleration would be no avail.

One of the oaths is ‘not to rebel against the nations of the world’ another of the oaths is ‘not to ascend to Isreal in waves or strong force according to Rashi, so if the Nations of the World permitted us to go to Isreal is does not give us permmison to go to Isreal in waves or force, especially the fact parts of Isreal were not even given to us.

Another point is the fact that the nations violated the oath ‘not to persecute us more then neccessary’ is not a reason for us to violate our oaths.

Another point may be that the 1000 years mentioned by Rabbi Chaim Vital is when the oaths end (he derives this from the Zohar) is not mashma from Abarnel, Talmudic and Midrashic sources, and only applies to the point of Tzaddikim Gemurim not davening for the Geula more then necessary.

Another point is the argument between Rabbi Yehoshua and Rabbi Eliezer in Sanhedrin, wherever redemption recquires repentance or not. Rabbi Yehoshua says it doesn’t, Rabbi Eliezer says it does, normally in shas a dispute between Rabbi Eliezer and Rabbi Yehoshua the halacha follows Rabbi Yehoshua (who the Zionist follow and hold redemption can occur without redemption), but in this case Rabbi Eliezer argued with Rabbi Yehoshua immidietealy afterwards (see Gemara) and then Rabbi Yehoshua was silent indicating his agreement (a rule in Shas when a colleuge is silent after a rabbi argues), which indicates in this case the Halacha would follow Rabbi Eliezer.

This would prove the halacha follows Rabbi Eliezer, which proves that redemption is dependnent on Repentance. This is supported all over Chazal,and in the ‘real’ Nusach of Tephilla (passed down by R’ Yoels farther and Chassidim, in the prayer ??? ??????

Another point is the fact the Beis Hamikdash would be built before the moshiach is false. This false doctrine is based on 1 chazal, with the majority disagreeing with it. In fact this Chazal means that Moshe and Aaron will be resurrected before Moshiach son of Dovid and build the Temple. The Fact the Korbonos and the Omer would be be worked around Shabbos proves that it will be Heavenly built Temple, together with human hands (or most likely Prayers).

The concensus of all these Commentators (Rishonim and Achronim) disputes Aruch Le Ner who says it will all Heavenly be built.

He cites a story told by the Maharam about the Kotel was refurbished by a king and he asked the Jews if he could build there Temple, they said only by Heavenly hands can it be built.

Another point is Jews are scatterd and Moshiach cannot come till they gather the exiles. Rambam defines Moshiach as a man doing wonders, bringing people to the Torah, someone unmatched sinced Moshe Rabbeinu, like Bar Koziba who shows sighns of perfection, only when this man appears can the exiles be gatherd (he cites the Nusach of Shemona Esrei ??? ?????? to prove this.)

Another point is the evils of Zionsm. Its a known fact that when Aguda in 1948, who did not want any close dealings with Zionists (like Mizrachi). The more less scholarly Aguda members allowed the Zionsts to put there signatures on the happiness and gratitude on a state being formed in the secular newspaper. However the more scolarly elements of the party forbid the Zionist secular newspapes, from putting there names on the this letter. The Zionists igonred them, and with total Chutzpeh, Geneiva and lies put even these names on aswell, all in the cause of misleading the masses.

It is a well known fact that the expulsions from the Arab lands was mainly due to Zionist leaders meeting Arab leaders and informing them to expel there ‘Jews’ , and send them to Israel, then bereft of there possessions (due to consfication all agreed at the meetings between the Zionists and Arab leaders), then the Zionists would give these poor new immigrants sustanance if they would work for the state and lose there religion.

The same occured in the Holocaust–where to enter Palestine one had to swear by the State, and endure simialr circumstances theformer case study i mentioned.

Another point is the isur of have any dealings with them, these include

Not accepting benefits from the government, or any benefit whatssoever.

Not going to there courts.

Not trying to influence them.

Not entering there environs.

He cites some reasons,

There is a phrase in Mishelie ?? ??? ???? ???? ??? ???? ?????? which means dont even walk with them at all ???? ???? ?? ???? we say to the nazir (turn around turn around dont come near) as it says Tehilllim ?? ??? ???? ????? ???? ????? ?? ??? ????? ???? ?? ???, as it says in Avoda Zora on that verse if you ??? you will enventually come to ??? and if ??? you will enventually come to ????? and if you ????? you will enventually come to ????

You will eventually be influenced by them (Rab Yoel showed this atchally happend with the early religious Zionists).

In addition there is the issur of ???? to avodei aveiros, and the issur of ???? ???? ????? (Biblical Transgessions- very severe).

The Mizrachis are the cheif transgressors of this, but a charedim can also be oveir this, (Join Brisk they don’t accept money from the government and you will be okay).

It says in Talmud Shabbos it is better to go to a Goyse idol worshipers house then a Jewish one, because the former hold on to the Minhag of there forefathers and don’t recognise there sin, the latter do recognise there sin, both are prefable not to go to– the Rashba says its Pashut in both cases, the Rosh says only in the case of the goy, the Tor rules like the Rashba (who is the Tor O think)

The Radvaz was asked wherever he could become a Muslim under coercion (who belive in 1 G-d like us) he osured it, Kal B’ Chomer with this Zionsit goverment who are evil in there decrees trying to uproot Torah and Yiddishkiet from the Land all in the aid of money and power.