The wife of former Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin’s assassin, Yigal Amir, has given birth to a baby boy at Bikur Cholim hospital in Yerushalayim earlier Sunday. The Israel Prisons Service last week denied a request by Amir for leave from prison to attend the upcoming Bris, which he made expecting his wife, Larisa Trimbobler, to give birth to a boy imminently.
The Prison Service also said that it would not allow him to make the Bris within Rimonim prison, were he is currently incarcerated.
The Bris will take place on November 4, exactly 12 years since Rabin was shot & killed.
(Sources: Ynet / Haaretz)
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Just missed Rabin’s yahrzteit too.
Mazel tov
That’s a pretty wild “coincidence”.
More importantly, how can we, as “orthodox” Jewish people, believe the lashon harah on a fellow Jew that he murdered, based on groundless Zionist accusations, particularly when plenty of Zionists dispute that he murdered Rabin?
I would have written “alleged” and “convicted” in reference to Amir, in that first line, which would have been more accurate than writing “Rabin’s assassin”.
Mr. Amir, did not kill a former Prime Minister. He killed a prime minister. This man should not be afforded any privileges or respect. He murdered in cold blood.
I guess that’s part of the cost of commiting retzicha.
‘More importantly, how can we, as “orthodox” Jewish people, believe the lashon harah on a fellow Jew that he murdered, based on groundless Zionist accusations, particularly when plenty of Zionists dispute that he murdered Rabin?’
HAKATAN,
What in heaven’s name are you saying? Who murdered Rabin in your opinion if not Mr. Amir??? Please support your ‘Zionist Conspiracy theory’?
Since Peres actually is responsible for the murder, as is well known, perhaps he should be mechubed with sandek.
Moshe and Yatzmich: How can you believe Lashon Harah against a fellow Jew and call him a rotzaiach when you, personally, have absolutely no idea of what happened there in that square?
I leave it up to the secular (and equivalent Jewish) press to report the “news”, but religious Jews have no business believing Lashon Hara about someone just because “it’s in the papers”.
And, for argument’s sake, is being denied attending his son’s bris truly liHalacha part of the cost of committing Retzicha? In whose eyes? Are you saying a Beis Din would not have allowed him at his son’s bris if they had convicted him of retzicha?
I am not convinced that’s the case.
“Are you saying a Beis Din would not have allowed him at his son’s bris if they had convicted him of retzicha?”
HA HA!!
He would have been KILLED by Bais Din already – and would have been unable to attend the Bris.
Names to choose from? Yigal or Yitzchak!
jO jO – of course, if they had put him to death, he would be unable to attend the bris. To make that comparison more analogous to the situation here, let’s say there were some issue that prevented them carrying out that sentence and Beis Din had to hold him temporarily.
Again, I repeat my question. Where in Shulchan Aruch does it say that IF someone is convicted of being a rotzeach, that he is to be treated like dirt until his sentence is carried out?
Of course, in this case, no beis din has convicted him, so, again, how can you so callously say “that’s (meaning, being denied permission to attend his son’s bris) part of the cost of commiting retzicha” when you cannot show that it is?
I believe the murder was a set up and whether or not he actually pulled the trigger is questionable. There were others involved in Rabin’s murder, Yigal Amir was just the scapegoat.
They should name the child Kayin.
Larisa Trimbobler is not the wife of Yigal Amir.There was never a chupah,eidim,etc.
Yigal Amir did not kill Rabin,(Yoram Rubin did)For documented facts of what did happen and who did, see Barry Chamish’s best seller Who Killed Rabin and other books.
Can anyone explain why the security service is ‘guarding’ trimbobler in the hospital???
IF HE WAS AN ARAB THEY WOULD PAY FOR THE BRIS
With all due respect to those of you who believe that Amir did not kill Rabin, understand that you are no better than the loonies who believe that Al-Queda didn’t commit the 9/11 attacks, or that the Mafia killed JFK. I’d think that we Jews are smarter than believing in conspiracy theories.
get a life yigal was framed, and if he did, he was performing a mitzvah, rabid (shem rishoim yirkov) was responsible for plenty of jewish blood shed (Altalina anyone?)
he was a lousy pm who gave guns to Arabs!
the left was in trouble and needed soothing to throw at the right…
some of us were there and remember it well…..
kol haom , how do you know there was no wedding?
I’d add my voice to those who think Yigal was not the murderer. A little education goes a long way.
We don’t think that Amir didn’t kiil Rabin we know that he didn’t kill him this is old news. This was all a setup.
I never said anything about Halacha. I sais that is the COST…
I hear that he’s going to call the baby Yitzchok since the bris is on Rabin’s yarhzeit.
Reb Melech. Just remember before you make fun of Kayin, that he is your grandfather. Noach’s wife came from Kayin.
Yup, and Lee Harvey Oswald didn’t kill JFK. It was all a conspiracy by the CIA.
OY. Just look at the state of klal yisrael. He didn’t kill him, but if he did he was doing a mitzvah!
Whatever you believe you know about Yitzhak Rabin, he did more for Eretz Yisrael then all of us shtetl kibbitzers together.
do you mean to tell me the guy’s wife visits him in the prison?
then, i don’t think beis din would have convicted him. first, there was not hasroo, second there is a question whether rabin should be considered rotzeach.
al pee shnayim eidim yakum davar with seven questions to clarify therefore we must not believe it.
What makes all of you who deny that Amir was the assassin any different than the Arabs who deny the Holocaust? Or those who believe that the Jews had advance warning about 9/11?
Occam’s razor people- the simplest explanation is usually the correct one.
The assasination of JFK by Lee Harvey Oswald has been reported on, investigated by, and discussed by credible, level-headed individuals.
The assasination of Rabin precipitated serious questions by credible, level-headed individuals determined to investigate what was far from a clear-cut assasination case. A significant number of the public, not a few isolated loonies, have troubling questions regarding the series of events culminating in the declaration of Rabin’s death.
So no, the two are not comparable.
You have free choice in whether to believe the “official version” or something else entirely. But to dismiss the troubling elements of this matter is to deliberately eschew intelligent debate.
Regardless of whether or not he is in fact a murderer, if the Israeli criminal justice system allowed him to get married and spend time with his wife while he was in their custody, they should certainly allow him in some way be present for his son’s bris.
Wasnt he in jail for more than 9 months?
Everyone knows that Elvis killed Rabin.
dd-
You mean before or after he appeared to you in a dream?
Sarah,
The same argument you are making can be made in regards to Lee Harvey Oswald not being the “real” killer, but rather it is all a CIA conspiracy.
amir did not kill rabin…
please be dan lekaf zechus.
my bro. knows him from kby, he’s the nicest guy in the world.
Cherry Hill,
It’s OK, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. My own understanding tells me differently, but you are permitted to think how you like, hopefully backed by your understanding of the evidence.
WHAT ABOUT THE PULSA DENURAH?
Sarah, Obviously my point is both ideas are equally loony.
What about Pulsa Denurah? They never did it or did they?
The JFK murder was not a CIA conspiracy, if people actually investigated before they posted comments, they would find that the CIA was literally forming during the time of JFK’s murder. It is believed that Oswald was working alone, he was termed legally insane, and had in the past sent threatening notes to the president. It was not the Mafia, the CIA or Cuba, for those of you who are uninformed.
fbi.gov,
Just to put your fears at rest, I don’t think there was any poster on this thread who indicated a belief that the JFK assasination was a CIA conspiracy.
Rather, those who referenced the above were simply using the absurdity of the CIA conspiracy “theory” as an analogy to the questions surrounding the murder of Rabin.