mw13
Dont be disapointed. i’ll explain it to you. Though my postion is not based on logic it is strictly fact based.
There are two separate arguments going on tangentially.
1) Does Jews walking on har habayis incite more violence, thus making them responsible for it.
2) Does that make it wrong
(There is a third discussion regarding the halachic issue of walkign on har habyis, but i usualy avoid strictly halachic discussions on this forum because they usually turn into comparing R’ x to R’ Y)
some have argued that going on har habyis even if would lead to more violence is neccesary to show shlita over it or something to that affect. In other words they either concede or just dont discuss argument 1. I’m not sure I agree with that. The thrust of my argument was limited to argument 1.
Now according to your (and Joseph’s, DY’s argument) if I do an act X and you say oh you did X I’m going to do Y. Even if youve done Y multiple times without my X, even if you had planned to do Y anyway, even if I have done X multiple times without you doing Y. I am responsible for any outcomes of Y.
Again note: this doesnt automatically make X wrong.
Please correct me if I’ve misstated your position.
Following the above “logic”. If Soldiers shooting terrorists is used to incite more terror that makes them responsible. Granted it may be necessary and not wrong.
Please explain why soldiers killing terrorists doesnt make them responsible for more terror (again not why the action is justified)?
Also I asked earlier if in your view Yosef Lipshutz was responsible for the death of Yankel Rosenbaum (even inadvertently) is he?