“If you believed that people such as Herzl, Ben Gurion, Sharon, Netanyahu, etc., were the modern equivalents of Shabatai Zvi or Yaakov Frank, what would you do?”
Well I certainly wouldn’t march along side Islamists and proud anti-Semites, that’s for sure. None of the mainstream anti-Zionist religious camp condones what they’re doing. When none of the gadolim would sanction shaking hands with those who have the same views as Hitler, yet they do so anyway, I think we can say they aren’t frum (at least to the same degree that we can call a far-left MO who ignores all of the major Rabbis “not frum”). Condemning the secular, Zionist state does not automatically equate to venerating Iran and Hezbollah. This thread isn’t about Zionism, it’s about the N”K’s extreme methods.
Nisht: That’s a good point. To the rest of the world, people take the opinions of organizations like JStreet more seriously, so they’re the ones we should really be talking about. The Nuturei Karta is a hot topic here because they claim to be representing religious Judaism which bothers a lot of the frum world who don’t agree.