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Avi K
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Mdg, ???? means conquer.here are some proofs:

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?”? ???????: ??????? ???????, ?????? ?? ?????? ??? ??? ??? ??, ???? ?????? ???????, ??? ????? ??????.

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?”? ??????? ?? ???? ?????? ??: ?? ????, ?? ???? ??? ???, ???? ???? ????? ???? ?????? ???? ?? ??? ????? ???, ??? ????? ????? ?’. ????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ??? ???? ?? ??? ???? ?????? ???????? ??, ????? ?? ???? ?’. ??? ??????? ??????? (?????? ?”? ?’) ????? ?????? ???? ?????, ?????? ???? ????, ?????? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ????? ?? ???? ???? ?????, ??? ????, ???? ???????? ????? ???, ?? ????? ??? ??? ???? ???. ?????? ????? ??? ??????? ????, “???? ???? ?? ????” (????? ?’ ?’). ??? ??”? ????, “??????? ?? ????”, ??????? ???? ???????, ?? “?????? ??”, ????? ??????? ??, ??? ??? – ?? ????? ??????? ??, ??? ??????? ??? ?????.

???”?, ???????? ???? ?????? ?????”? ???? ????? ???:

????? ??? ??? ???? ??? (????”?) ?????? ??? ??? ??? ????”?:

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?”? ??????? ?? ????: ???? ????? ????? ????, ?? ???? ?????? ?? ???? ??????, ??? ?? ????? ????, ?? ?? ?? ???? ????? ?? ????, ?? ???? ??????? ??????.

Ramban holds that there are two mitzvot: a mitva on Am Yisrael to conquer the Land and a mitzva on the individual to live in it. This si shown by the following:

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“?[????] ?? ??? ??????? ????? ???? (???? ?”? ?”?): ‘????? ????’. ??? ???? ???? ???? (?? ?? ?”?): ‘??? ?? ????? ????? ????? ????? ???? ??? ????, ????? ??? ??????? ???? ??? ????’…

…??????? ????? ???? ???? ?????? ??????? ??????? ?? ??????. ??? ???? ??????? ?? [????] ?????? ??????? ?? ??? ??? ?? ?????? ????? ?? ???? ?????? ??? ?? ??? ???? ?? ?? ??? ???? ?????? ?? ??????? ???? ?????. ???????? ??????? ????????.

??????? ‘????? ????? ?????’ ???? ?? ????? ??? ??? ??????… ??? ??????? ?????? ??? ??????”.

????? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ??? ???? ?? ?? ????? ????? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ??????? ??.

“????? ??? ?? ????? ???????? ??????? ?? ???? ???? ??? ?????, ?? ????? ??? ????? ???? ??? ????? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ????? ???… ????? ?? ?????? ?????? ????? ?? ??? ??? ????? ??? ??? ???????? ???? ???? ????? ??. ?? ?? ??? ???? ??? ?????? ?????? ?? ???? ???? ?????? ???? ???? ????? ?????? ??????? ????”.

In any case, no one has brought a refutation to my points that

1. The deal is off because the goyim violated their part of the bargain (see my citation from the Shulchan Aruch)

2. The goyim gave us permission so it’s not rebellion (Rav Meir Simcha) and

3. Hashem has called (Rav Soloveihcik)