PAA: “However you want.”
That leaves too much ambiguity to have this discussion.
“Now once we agree on whether or not they are apikorsim”
But it isn’t agreed and won’t be. I’ve cited a sefer saying they are. We both know the RZs say they’re not and aren’t amenable to thinking otherwise, since it would collapse their entire position.
oyy: I’ve very much addressed the question at hand here.