DY: Still confused what the difference is between zdad’s and yours… so both are independent, free-market things which each seem to be objectionable (or at least talking points) to someone or another, and which each are quite easy to avoid.
nisht doesn’t have to go to that restaurant. zdad doesn’t have to buy heimishe-stickered Twizzlers. (I have a question as far as why the sticker means anything if they’re being made in the same way, but I don’t have an objection to anything but the upped price, and it’s true, I can just buy them at ShopRite.) But you guys seem to be making the same point about each of those certifications being something that someone is paying for in a free-market kind of way. For zdad’s point, the hashkafic implications of Uri L’Tzedek don’t even seem relevant.
And Joe: While I get your objection to your post about Shmuly Yanklowitz’s statement, there is a pretty pareve interpretation you can take out of it- kavod habrios. Technically speaking.
*ducks* I may have just thrown any remaining yeshivish street cred to the dust…