mdd: I have no idea why you are having such trouble with what I am saying. Rava said R’ Tarfon was wrong. I gave a perfectly reasonable explanation why, which is not far from what you said in the first place.
And again, how is this relevant to this thread? Are you trying to get me to say that I think R’ Shlomo Zalman made a Hashkafic mistake? Sorry, no dice. Won’t happen.