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What are true torah values and hashkafa seems debatable. My grandmother had slight dementia and a stroke which made it difficult for her to swallow and communicate. The hospital said there was no need to keep her so she was tube fed at home. With time she got better and was taken off the tube feeding and fed pureed food. She was able to communicate somewhat but not speak much. After approx. 1 1/2yrs when hatzalah was called for some reason there was a question whether to take her to the hospital or not. (what the question was i don’t remember) A Rov was consulted and she was not taken. She was niftar later that morning. This is a strictly chareidi rov.

When blood transfusion were first introduced there were questions if it was mutar to give your blood away as well as organs. It is NOT a well accepted-self understood concept to use life support under all circumstances. There is a big difference between suicide/murder/killing and opposing life support. Not using life support is NOT killing!

But in many cases it is becoming more common where hospitals actually do KILL when it comes to seniors or terminally patients. I’ve seen hospitals were there are many nice and caring people, AND there are also those who do it just as a job and source of income and care about nobody. There is always those few but they exist just about everywhere and they actually do things like not change tubes on ventilators and log they did, reuse the same needle from hrs earlier that was accidentally left there, dropping needles or gauze that needs to be sterile on the floor and using them anyway (unwrapped), even more horrifying use the same Q-tip to clean a tracheostomy from one patient to another. This can actually KILL! And they are actually the good ones saving the hospital money. OR are they in reality stealing the unused item.

**If you don’t open your mouth too much they do it in front of you, and if you do open your mouth they just kick you out and do it behind your back!!!**

This is standard practice I’ve witnessed.