ubiquitin – your response regarding hishtadlus does not remotely resemble my comments regarding belief. I was very clear (several times) that I did NOT say – “don’t bother giving him intervention because Gd will”. I very clearly said – if you are UNABLE to provide intervention to someone because medical ethics dictate that you use your time or materials on someone else instead, you should never think that it is YOU who is deciding their fate.
If I have one rope and two people are drowning I can only save one, but I MUST believe that the other is not just the ‘guy who drew the short straw’, he is in Hashems hands since he is CLEARLY out of my reach. I should be wishing I could save both, but understanding that I must pick one, and believing that it was Hashem’s will and He will deal as needed.
you cannot twist that to mean that I said that I have one rope and two people are drowning and I start saying tehillim.
I have no problem discussing differing points, and I hear loud and clear that some of these points are not registering at all as intended, but please do not play with my words. That just makes me look foolish and it is not fair.