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1. There is a big difference between relying on a ness, and davening for a ness. The former is foolish, the latter, depends on if one is davening for a ness nigla or ness nistar.
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3. Sam2, You’re not sure yourself what the exact question posed to R’ Elyashiv (who was known to answer questions very literally – exactly how they were worded by the one posing the question, I’ll add that we don’t know how polished your Yiddish/Ivrit is…) and your not sure what his answer was. It’s not very responsible of you to publicize it.
The question as posed by newbee in this thread is not in anyway addressed by ‘we have to do what is normally done to take care of ourselves’.
4. newbee, not exactly sure what is your difficulty with “??? ???? ?? ???? – ??? ?? ???? ???” please explain.