I am not trying to assur university. Maybe you are mixing up my posts with other people’s posts. I think the most I’ve done was refer to Rav Chaim and Rav Elchonon that were brought above by TMB.
None of your rishonim asured university — nor any acharon prior to the 19th century.
Allow me to quote tmb again:
(c) To learn secular studies on a regular basis is prohibited, as per the Rama 246:4
I could list hundreds more if you want.
You seemed to accorded these two ‘gadol’ status. And I made my comparison from there. Unless you call every rabbi a gadol…
Rabbis in Western Europe and Italy were also attending university. And some of the rabbis I mentioned were actually from Eastern Europe like Rav Herzog, Rav Soloveitchik, and the Lubavicher Rebbe.
I cannot comment on Western European Rabbis as I do not know if I am familiar with any. I think it is significant that all three rabbis you bring from Eastern Europe are controversial figures in the eyes of a significant portion of the charedi public.
My point has been the same this entire time. There were a number of posts attempting to ‘prove’ that university education is or should be ideal even to the charedi public as there were a number of Rabbis that attended university. I have only been trying to say that many of these Rabbis are controversial figures to many charedim and shouldn’t be used as a proof. Of the remaining, these may be individual cases where university was the best possible solution.
In addition, if you are worried that if everyone sits and learns all day that we will not be able to survive as a society allow me to point you in the direction of Sanhedrin 94B to what Chizkiyahu did and what is said about his generation. If everyone was sitting in the Beis HaMedrish on pain of death- who was taking care of the sick? And if you say that everyone was a talmid chacham but they were also doctors. I would answer that – how did they get past the sword by the door of the beis medrish on their way out to university?
You are right. As long as we are still attending university, we will still need doctors and engineers, but once we all put ourselves back in the beis medrish, we won’t need them anymore. This is the famous vort on vayikra 26:23-24 “v’halachtem imi keri, v’halachti af ani imachem b’keri”.