gavra_at_work,
Do you think that the Torah should be updated for a non-agrarian society. Hm….. No. If I did, I would (rightfully) be called a Reform Jew.
Your response is a red herring; you didn’t answer my question.
And no, the Torah does not need to be updated so that it deals with a non-agrarian society. Your assertion that my question can only be answered with Torah reform indicates that perhaps you believe Hashem cannot predict the future or write the Torah in such a way that it can deal with multiple societies. You kofer. 🙂
That is the same “your Cheshbon” point DY brought. Asked and answered.
And countered successfully by DaasYochid. If someone asks you for money, it gives you the right to tell him yes or no. It perhaps gives you the right to investigate his situation to inform your subsequent yes or no. It does not give you the right to throw Chazals at him in his pain and dictate to him what you think is best for his learning.
Since you are missing the point, (and DY is a Kofer anyway, so no-one will listen to him :), I’ll explain.
I understand your point, but if all you are trying to do is state that since Chazal say aniyus is good for Torah learning, a society that values Torah learning above all else should ergo embrace aniyus, I’ll respond that it is a rather strange point to make in a thread about tzedaka, in response to a poster noting the dire living conditions for Chareidim in E”Y.
If I came across a man about to hand $50 to a beggar, and pointed out to him that each and every dollar given to tzedaka is holy, and that even a dollar given is a great mitzvah, what I said was absolutely true, but was I doing a good thing or a bad thing in context?
Your point was not made in a vacuum, and it is valid for us to make inferences and ask questions based on juxtaposition.