KJ-it’s not a matter of logic. They think there’s no logic to what your thinking. In their mind they would be crazy to not have an army. How did the suspects who yemach shemo killed the four kedoshim in the shul in har nof, how were they neutralized? By police and army forces. In their mind they think it’s outrageous not to have an army protecting the Jewish people. You think exactly opposite.
That’s fine. I’m not saying you have to agree with them. Im saying have dialogue with them.
GAW- what makes u so sure it’s not sinas chinam that is causing all the atrocities world wide. It’s ncie of you to pin blame on other people but that will make YOU unproductive in trying to change that. Start focusing on why you are not helping bring the geulah. yiu sound learned and smart but you also sound close minded and not lviing of your fellow Jew. So before you gk and critique a whole group of Jews and pin the blame on them, focus on fixing yourself. If your all done fixing yourself and feel others are not fixing themselves then go out and help them see why. but stop blaming them.