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yummy: I’m not sure how to respond to that. It says to drink until you don’t understand the difference between blessed is mordechai and cursed is haman. That seems to be a way of saying an extreme level of drunkenness.

In fact, the ran says that it really means that you don’t understand the difference between ???? ??? ????? ????? ????? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ???????, because just haman and mordechai is impossible to drink enough to get that drunk.

Sam: The Beis yosef says: ???? ?????? ?????? ????? ????? ?????? ?? ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ????? ?????. ????? ???? ???? ??? ?????? (?:) ????? ??????? (?”? ???) ??? ??? ??? ???? ??? ????? ????? ????? ??? ????? ???? ?????? ?? ?????? ?????? ?? ??????? ??? ??? ??”? (?: ?”? ??’) ????? ??? ??? ???? ??? ????? ????? ???? ????? ??? ???? ?? ??? ???? ???? ??”? (??) ??? ????? ????? ?????? ????? ??? ??? ?????? ????? ?????? ??’ ???? ?????? ????? (??) ????? ??? ????? ???? ??? ???? ??? ?????? ???: ???? ?????? ???? (??’ ????? ??? ??) ???? ???? ?????? ?????? ?? ?????? ???????? ????? ???? ???? ?? ????? ????? ??? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ??????? ???? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ????? ???? ??????? ???

Then, he himself writes in the shulchan aruch: ???? ???? ?????? ?????? * ?? ??? ??? (?) ??? ???? ??? ????? ?????.

Reading the beis yosef, it is not clear how he is paskening. The beis yosef brings different opinions. I think it is fair to say the shulchan aruch accepts the one which he codified by itself. I think it is fair to say he intended the shulchan aruch to be read by itself without reference to other opinions he had brought in the beis yosef.

Have you ever seen anyone assuming the shulchan aruch himself did not paskin like something he says explicitly, because he had brought both opinions in the beis yosef? I have never seen this, and my semicha covered 280 blatt of shulchan aruch.