Reply To: Quoting Fathers

I was thinking that maybe quoting your father in writing is different from verbally quoting him and therefore this halacha wouldn’t apply in the Gemara in Bava Kamma where Rabba Bar Rav Huna quoted his father in writing. However, it wouldn’t explain what R’ Yaakov Emden was attempting to do.

Shuv Matzasi that the Darchei Moshe (Yoreh Deiah 240) quotes the Shiltei Giborim quoting the Riaz:

????? ??”? ?????? ??? ??? ???????? (???? ??????? ??. ??? ?) ?? ????? ???? ????? ???? ????? ???? ????? ??? ???? ?? ??? ???????? ???? ??? ???????? ??????? ????? ??? ?”? ???? ???? ???”? ???? ?????? ????? ????? ??? ??”? ??”? ???? ??? ????? ????? ??????? ????? ?????? ???? ???? ????? ??? ??? ??? ???? ????? ??? ??”? ?”? ???? ???? ????

which would lend credence to my answer, namely that Rav Huna didn’t write ????? ???? ????? because the writing might still be around after 12 months when ????? ???? ????? is not appropriate. However, the Riaz clearly says that you would still write ???”? which Rav Huna didn’t do, and the Rema here and in Shulchan Aruch, rejects this shita.

The Shach says that even within 12 months you can just say ?”?, the point being that after 12 months you can’t say ????? ???? ?????. But again, this wouldn’t explain why Rav Huna didn’t even say ?”?.

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