SL,
(I suppose you were responding to me)
I’m sorry you had such an experience. But know, that’s not the norm. At least not around here.
Read what the Rebbe above wrote. I have the same feelings.
And I wasn’t saying that OTD cannot come from other sources, only that a family which tolerated belittling, derision, scorn towards Rabbonim, Rebbes and Morahs will have ?”? an issue… (btw, it’s not my own words)
And I wasn’t ?”? condoning abuse, or abusive educators. The problem with abusive educators can be even those who abuse verbally, a scar from a verbal attack can be very long in healing too.
Again, (and I’m not going to be drawn and dragged down into debate) plain ???? and Gemarrah do warrant corporeal punishment, no amount of books, sefarim, sermons etc. can distort or falsify the sagacious advice of Shlomo hamelech himself. All later books and advice are NOT the intended words, rather an adaptation towards our generation. And as I’ve written above, today’s system has nothing special to show. Read Rabbi Miller’s approach to chinuch. Again, this is all about an approach for caring, devoted, rational, level-headed mechanchim. Those who act not upon impulse rather upon sound judgment and deliberation. I was not at all referring to the issue of abusive mechanchim.
Again, I really feel bad for your terrible encounter with the system.