There is no possible discussion for daas torah, it is right, if you don’t believe that, I don’t know what to tell you.
I read orchos tzadikim shaar torah, and yes, he does say that we forget to learn gemora these days, but if you were to read the entire shaar, and not pick a nd chose you would realize that he says we don’t understand the gemara, so the way to do that is through rishonim and achronim.
I am not arguing iyun vs bekiyus, they are both very important, I don’t feel I am on a madreiga to decide which one is “better”.
And as pulsing flower said, the tosefos harash is not just a “better writer” than tisefos. That’s ridiculous. Top think rishonim are just wasting their time is basically apikorses.
This thread should end, being that if yeshiva guys were to read this they can be turned off by a bunch of stupid posters who think they know everything.