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frumnotyeshivish
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The halacha is a man can give a get for whatever he wants, for any reason. I think we all agree on that.

A man who has the capability to not torture, abuse, and control a woman should use that capability. I think we all agree on that too.

I think our fundamental disagreement is whether the behavior we are discussing is torture abuse and control.

Imagine you are a woman who can’t stand the person you are married to. You made a big mistake. You regret it. You are utterly miserable. The marriage is absolutely over. There is no chance of you be able to hack another day of it. You tell your husband that it’s not him it’s you, and you are willing to make equitable arrangements for the best interests of the children. He says no. We are staying married. Because I’m in charge. Your input here is irrelevant. How you feel about the marriage is meaningless. Is that considerate? Is that decent? Is that not the epitome of emotional abuse?

If your response mentions her responsibilities again, I’m going to throw the phone I’m typing on at you.

If your response mentions halacha, it should be the halacha that says that he MUST do the evil above. If there is no such halacha (hint: there isn’t) then it is irrelevant.

You keep hiding behind halacha to pretend that the abhorrent behavior you are defending is somehow moral.

If a woman seriously and permanently wants a get, and the man does not choose to give it, he is evil.