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Do you mean that any solution is better then no solution? That seems destructive.

Doing nothing is the most destructive thing of all. One has a chiuv to protest pritzus or any other sin in a suitable forum. What negative outcomes can happen if one writes in places such as the CR or other non-threatening places, such as writing letters to publications and the like, about the importance of tznius?

I propose the problems isn’t “those evil prutzahs”.

Prutzasdige women are part of the problem. They are not babies. They are adults who make adult decisions and should know better. We will all be held accountable for are deeds, prutzahs included.

I propose we as a society – men and women – need to do some soul searching, and reevaluate our priorities.

That would be the ideal situation, but it will never happen if people will not be aware of the harshness of pritzus.

Or terribly large seforim which have little to do with Halacha, but running on the terrible need to make more and more rules to compensate for the lost feeling of tzinius.

If you are talking about Rabbi Falk’s sefer, then it has much to do about halachas of tznius.

You are right though. It cannot compensate for the lost feelings of tznius. That’s a tragedy in itself.

Has the sledgehammer mehalach ever worked in our generation? EVER? Or has it just made people defensive? Has anyone really done anything because you threaten them?

On this forum, I don’t see anyone threatening anybody. Saying the truth about din v’cheshbon is not threatening. It is saying the truth.

Also, in a lot of schools where tznius is very enforced, the majority of girls do end up being tzniusdig as married women. Learning about tznius and enforcing the rules from when girls are young, create a feeling of tznius in these girls which doesn’t change for most of them, even after marriage.

It is also very important to create a feeling FOR tznius, not just OF tznius, as you are trying to say. But the bottom line is that, yes, using the sledghammer to chisel a beautiful form of a Jewish daughter as opposed to leaving one huge blob of a human is what we are doing our entire lives in chinuch as parents and educators. Certainly we should do that in the area of tznius.

This is not Europe. There is no organized Kehilla. We need to accept these realities, and look inward.

Wow! You brought out a very good point. Maybe that is the problem and that’s why in the Chassidishe communities halachas of tznius are , in the majority of cases, mostly adhered to.