Reply To: Hakaras Hatov for Israeli Soldiers (IDF)

r of berlin- Saying that the oaths were only aggadic will only further entrench the overall view of those against state –they will then quote you sources like igeres teiman of rambam, maharal, selected sources etc..

you will never win with them by claiming: 1) it is aggadata (even if not brought down in traditionally well known codes of law but rather other sources) 2) they broke oaths so we will beak ours 3) oaths were only for 1000 yrs etc…

The way to win the argument is to say- of course the oaths are valid but they just don’t apply here – because the binding ruling nations gave permission, state was declared bishalom, No National force/ No National rebellion(because the was declared with reshus and only afterword (the next day) did we fight a defensive war to protect our lives), no dechikas haketz in last geula period because each day is the zman geula can come, no inherent unfrum state but rather neutral democratic state, unfortunate tinok shenishba( non intentional Jew) involvement in govt at current time which will change in future – then invoke the Gedolim card – ie majority voted in favor, as well as ohr sameach ( R” M.S. Mdvinsk), and at the very least its eilu vi’eilu.

By the Hakatan -i still want a response to my last post before this one- in detail if you would