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And yes, the feminist movement, despite some worthy accomplishments, such as equal pay for equal work, was created to define men:s and women’s roles differently. Despite the fact that the Torah world has taken some advantage of the situation by tapping into women’s ability to earn money in order to allow for the men to learn more, it’s hard not to see the negative social impact.

Lishitasi, this IS the problem. You can’t have the woman bringing home the beef and still be telling her that her “role” is to support a husband in Kollel. In homes where the husband is the main (or equal) supporter of the family, the roles of the husband and wife are more clearly defined as per how Hashem created us.

men and women were created with different tafkidim in this world. Our modern society has flipped those roles and that’s why we no longer value the system the way it was meant to be.

Modern Society = “When you marry a Kollel guy” Seminaries that push the woman to support. Place the blame where it belongs.

SJS, good to see you here.

DY – The question as quoted from Rav Aharon says that all that counts is the husband’s learning. (“Even if a woman knows all of Shas, it means nothing. It is her husband’s learning that counts.”) Not her role in running the household, instilling Emunah and continuing the Shalsheles. The first is a vicarious role, while the second is her own accomplishment.

As I pointed out earlier, if all that counts is her husband’s learning, who really cares what she does?