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davidsamual14.

Actually, yes, according to the Torah, as transmitted to our Rabbis until today.

Speaking of navi, I suppose your “feeling” would similarly have advised Eliyahu HaNavi to not exhort Jews at Har HaCarmel but to instead leave them to serve the baal. That, too, was, in your view, “Satan’s way of causing mahlokes”?

Obviously, this is not so then and it is similarly not so now.

“We” did not need secular Jews to create the State of Israel, and “we” similarly did not need the many disasters of Zionism both before, during and after 1948. This is historical fact, not mere conjecture; study the opinions and actions of the greatest Torah sages of those times.

Regarding your “HaGra”, one is forbidden to transgress the Torah regardless of what any sefer or even what a live navi says. Surely, even the “religious Zionists”, who so bizarrely elevate their Zionism to be a major focal part of their Judaism (not like political party nonsense), would admit that if Hashem wished to bring Mashiach without Zionism that He can certainly do so. There is, therefore, no need to violate the Torah.

Again, Zionism always was and is wrong and against the Torah. Our greatest Torah sages for over a century (and even more) have said so and continue to say so, your “feelings” and observations not withstanding.