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Turkey Dinner Tonight?

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  • Started 2 years ago by choleh
  • Latest reply from Torah613Torah

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  1. choleh
    Member

    Unscientific poll... Are you having Turkey for supper tonight? Is is a proper Thanksgiving Dinner or what?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. iced
    Joseph

    Machlokes Haposkim whether it is assur. But if you're stam eating turkey (because you happened to get a good sale price on it, for example) and it is only coincidental that it is Thanksgiving but you are not celebrating it, it should be okay to eat.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. zahavasdad
    zahavasoneluckygirl

    Not really because it always winds up that I eat turkey for the next week. there is only so much turkey I can eat.

    I do love Pumpkin pie though, Its one of my favorites

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. WolfishMusings
    The Wolf

    No, but not out of any belief that doing so is forbidden.

    The Wolf

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. This name is already taken
    I have 2 subtitles both of which aren't listed.

    I pardoned my turkey

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. shnitzy
    a riotously insolent breaded piece of poultry (specifically, grouse) with a -y instead of an -el. fluffy poodle.

    classic wolf post

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. kfb
    Member

    I've celebrated thanksgiving every year of my life. I'm not really sure why Americans wouldn't celebrate Thanksgiving. We're thanking G-d for giving us freedom in America. I know we thank Him everyday, but today our country becomes one and thanks Him. Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. WIY
    Managed to post for 3 years without getting a subtitle

    I give thanks to Hashem after every dinner I eat, as well as after breakfast and lunch and any snacks or drinks I have throughout the day!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. oomis
    Best Bubby EVER

    Absolutely. And I made gravy for the turkey from the pan drippings mixed with a little cooking sherry and potato starch, and also made pumpkin pie, apple pie, cranberry sauce with mandarin oranges, cloves and cinnamon, a pot of brown and wild rice, bread stuffing, pareve scalloped potatoes, a fresh fruit platter, and corn kugel.

    Except for Purim, this is the only meal that everyone is off and able to drive over and more importantly...leave at the end of the meal, LOL. I had 15 people for dinner, two were an older married couple who are on their own and who would have dined alone. I invite them to my sedarim also and most yomim tovim for at least one meal.

    There is no reason not to have a nice dinner today, and no reason to not make it a turkey meal (healthy and loads of tryptophan). We should be thankful to live in a time and place where people do not prevent us from being a frum Yid.I might not actually
    "celebrate" turkey day, but I certainly do enjoy spending it with family and friends.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. uneeq
    Ironically, redundant subtitles can be redundantly ironic.

    I am very thankful that the Europeans murdered and pillaged the Native Americans, while in return we were taught the traditions and specialties of the new land.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. tzaddiq
    Member

    Jewish Thanksgiving Day is on the 25th of the month (Kisleiv, that is), and it lasts for 8 days, celebrated with potato latkes and doughnuts....mmmmmmmmmmmmm
    - btw, regarding your poll, no turkey for us. even though i live in canada, and thanksgiving in canada was in october, my american relatives are here for the weekend and were happy with a nice canadian dinner.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. kollel_wife
    Member

    I heard a shiur last night while in the car, 107.9 - I think it was Rabbi Frand.
    He was discussing the halachic implications of Thanksgiving. But what was interesting to me was the history of the day, which he expounded upon.

    If 1662 (?approx, I don't recall), the Pilgrims celebrated in JULY their thanks at suviving a difficult winter. Nothing happened after that until 1782(again approx, I don't recall) a NJ congressman or similar, suggested a holiday for thanks for this country etc. Again it was unused until during or after the Civil War (1860's?) when Lincoln established it as thanks for this country and our freedoms etc.
    Rabbi Frand, if that's who it was, went on to say he didn't know how the current holiday linked up back to the Pilgrim's story, but eventually it got all mixed together.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. simcha613
    Member

    According to some turkey is assur year round. I think we paskin that we do not rely on simanim for the kashrus of birds, but rather we rely on Mesorah. Since turkey is not native to Europe, there was never a Mesorah for the kashrus of turkey. I guess this is similar to why many people don't wear techeiles.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  14. 2scents
    Mint and Raspberry

    What does turkey and thanking have in common?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. twisted
    pretzel

    And there is also the spectacular contortion of Ashkenaz mesorah that allows one to eat such a bird.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. WIY
    Managed to post for 3 years without getting a subtitle

    Tzaddiq
    I guess the menorah is just a side show to the more important element of ess and fress.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  17. ItcheSrulik
    Formerly college sheigetz. Now ger.

    I had a kezayis of turkey and said l'shem yichud over a can of cranberries.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. WIY
    Managed to post for 3 years without getting a subtitle

    Itche
    I hope u made a hoadama on the cranberries.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. oomis
    Best Bubby EVER

    Correct me if I am mistaken, but is there not an inyan that we also rely on the intrinsic behavior of the birds, i.e. their manner of walking and or flying (if they actually do fly), and what they eat, to determine if they are kosher? Also, the flying creatures that are not kosher were listed by name in the Torah. Has a turkey ever been identified as one of those names?????

    Posted 2 years ago #
  20. DaMoshe
    Member

    I did not eat turkey, but that is just because I don't like the taste. The rest of my family had turkey, along with our guests.

    I explained to my kids that while we thank Hashem for everything every day by davening, making brachos, etc., the USA designated this day to thank G-d for the freedoms we have. My grandparents truly appreciate what so many of us take for granted - the right to practice our religion without being persecuted for it. Therefore, out of hakaras hatov to Hashem for giving us the USA, we celebrate Thanksgiving. (On July 4th we celebrate out of hakaras hatov to the USA itself.)

    Posted 2 years ago #
  21. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; eccentric; somewhere between mean and average; sometimes only a bit over the top; arbitrarily engaged in cynicism.

    oomis: It's a bit of a mystery why we eat turkeys, since we stopped relying on the simanim several hundred years ago, and now require mesorah on it.
    The best answer I've seen is that turkeys just beat the clock and we found them and started eating them right before we decided to only use mesorah, and so therefore they had a mesorah from that time.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  22. Torah613Torah
    (613)Torah²

    Uneeq: That made me laugh out loud.

    Posted 2 years ago #

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