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In-grown toenails URGENT ADVISE PLEASE

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  • Started 2 years ago by crazybrit
  • Latest reply from Bar Shattya

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  1. crazybrit
    This Is A Failed Attempt At The Longest Subtitle In The Yeshiva World Coffee Room. However, as the old adage goes, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again". im on my 4th or 5th, it does keep growing, i wonder if its still a failed attempt!

    Please can I have some sound advise,
    my grown toe nail has returned, how can I fix it and stop it returning again?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. supergirl613
    Member

    Go to a foot doctor or don't pick it.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. aries2756
    Smartness runs in my family.

    By going to a podiatrist and NOT trying to handle it on your own. The worst thing you can do is play around with it, try to cut it out, and make it worse. It can be very painful and you can wind up with an infection on top of everything else. Go to a professional and let the Doctor take good care of you.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. Nechomah
    Member

    Have you had part of the nail excised by a competent physician, often a podiatrist or orthopedic foot specialist? My son has had this happen and I took him to someone who puts something in the area that is excised to help prevent it from growing too wide in the future. Consult a competent specialist and have it treated right away. Some people go to a specialist who treats diabetics to have their nails cut and make sure there are no corners left behind.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. yentingyenta
    Member

    my younger sister is kinda prone to them. the podiatrist she went to while in camp suggested she wear wider shoes and not pinch her toes together.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. oomis
    Best Bubby EVER

    Get to a podiatrist, and after treatment, make sure you always cut the nails straight across.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. coffee addict
    having withdrawal symptoms

    Oy don't remind me about ingrown toenails, I remember havingone in 12th grade.

    If it just started you can use epsom salt and try to pry your toenail up and put cotton under the toenail.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. Health
    Member

    crazybrit -"Please can I have some sound advise,
    my grown toe nail has returned, how can I fix it and stop it returning again?"

    Don't tell me in Britain they spell advice -ADVISE.

    If you are too lazy to see a Podiatrist or if these type of docs weren't invented in G.B. - take an ice cube -numb the toe and cut straight down with a scizzors. Clean the wound with soap and water or hydrogen peroxide and cover with a band-aid (I guess bandage for Brits). Stop any bleeding first with pressure placed on it with a gauze pad.
    Is it infected? Ya know -bright red and pus comes out after you cut it. If so, then you will need to soak it in warm water for a bit. Then you can cover it with a band-aid which has on it an antibiotic, such as Bacitracin.
    To prevent recurrance -always cut your nails straight across.
    As for payment for my services -you can forget it -I don't like Euros or Pounds or whatever you call money nowadays!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  9. YW Moderator-72
    Retired Moderator

    I do not think that the CR should be posting medical advice on how to do surgery on oneself from Doc Google Cutandpaste or anyone else. It is irresponsible. Please delete his post.

    the proper advice was already given those who said to go to a real doctor.

    perhaps this thread should be closed.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  10. Imaofthree
    Member

    Hi Crazybrit, I had ingrown toenails as a teenager and went to a podiatrist who removed the part that was ingrown but it kept coming back. So the podiatrist cortorized that part of the nail bed so it didn't grow back. I have not had a problem since. Please don't try to operate on yourself, go to the podiatrist and have it taken care of. feel better.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  11. always runs with scissors fast
    irons with spray starch

    oh do lighten up a bit YW Moderator 72.

    Its not by pass surgery!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  12. HaLeiVi
    Plays the aeolian harp by air

    Health, OK. So I cut straight down, but I get a phone call. Do I have to re-scrub?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  13. Yiddishe Kup
    Member

    My brother used to get ingrown toe nails and went each time to a podiatrist. The podiatrist cut it out each time, and it was like getting very minor surgery on the toe.

    When I started getting them, I would put on something called outgrow (i dont know if it's still available) brand name: "Dr. Sole" that I picked up in the pharmacy that made the nail very soft and numbed the toe a little, and then pulled it out myself. I did that several times and even cut it out with any of the "outgrow".

    I definitely preferred cutting it out myself (even if it was a little painful sometimes) than to going to get it cut out from a podiatrist and having to wear a slipper on that foot for a day or two.

    Nothing wrong with trying what others here said u can try yourself.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  14. Ctrl Alt Del
    Wishes he could Ctrl Alt or Del some posts

    OMG!!! Please DO NOT FOLLOW HEALTH'S ADVICE!!! (maybe EVER!!)

    The answer lies in a good podiatrist or surgeon. A common procedure done for recurrent ingrown toenails is as follows. Its a little gross but it works. Ask your COMPETENT medical PROFESSIONAL. It is called lateral nail avulsion with matricectomy. I had this done not too long ago.The area is anesthetized and the nail is cut vertically down to the nail bed. The root of the nail is then killed so that it will no longer grow any more nail material. This is done with electrocautary or maybe silver nitrate. The skin on the affected side then grows in resulting in a narrower nail (not by much though) and within a short time its almost undetectable.

    ARWSF, its not bypass but can you say "gangrene"?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. Macherish
    Member

    Been there, done that..somehow once you get it once, seems like you're more prone to it! I would first try soaking it in warm water and soap daily and put some antibiotical cream with a bandaid on it. If after a week or so, nothing has helped, I would go to a podiatrist. Altho, let me warn you, that numbing shot REALLY hurts!!!!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  16. HaLeiVi
    Plays the aeolian harp by air

    Why shouldn't you listen to Health? He's a surgeon, I believe.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  17. crazybrit
    This Is A Failed Attempt At The Longest Subtitle In The Yeshiva World Coffee Room. However, as the old adage goes, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again". im on my 4th or 5th, it does keep growing, i wonder if its still a failed attempt!

    so I have made an appointment with a foot doctor (chiropractor?) for next week, what till then?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  18. DaasYochid
    a singular mind

    so I have made an appointment with a foot doctor (chiropractor?) for next week, what till then?

    Until then, try to see a podiatrist. :)

    Posted 2 years ago #
  19. BTGuy
    Member

    Hi crazybrit.

    In-grown toenails, as you know, can really be a bother; and the more you try to handle them on your own, the bigger the hole you dig.

    Feel better, and try to see if they have any cancellations to get you in sooner.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  20. Health
    Member

    HaLeiVi- "Health, OK. So I cut straight down, but I get a phone call. Do I have to re-scrub?"

    Funny! Noone scrubs in unless you're doing a major procedure on it -like Ctrl Alt Del said. The only thing he fails to tell you (besides about me) is they only do it this way as the last resort. Most of the time they do it my way.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  21. Health
    Member

    HaLeiVi -"Why shouldn't you listen to Health? He's a surgeon, I believe."

    Not a Surgeon, but no more about me.
    Ctrl Alt Del & Mod 72 have it in for me from way back. I don't know why, but they do.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  22. mamashtakah
    Member

    so I have made an appointment with a foot doctor (chiropractor?) for next week, what till then?

    I believe the correct word is chiropodist.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  23. DaasYochid
    a singular mind

    I always shut my phone off before performing bypass surgery.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  24. miritchka
    probationary member

    Ctrl Alt Del: I have never had an ingrown toenail, b"h but after reading up on it online, i dont think Health is that off. (besides for the fact that he does have more medical knowledge than most of us). This is what i saw on wikipedia: The treatment of an ingrown toenail partly depends on how severe it is. In mild to moderate cases conservative treatment with warm water soaks, antibacterial ointment and using dental floss or a gutter splint to provide a tract along which the nail may grow, may suffice.[9] If conservative treatment of a minor ingrown toenail does not succeed or if the ingrown toenail is severe, surgical management is recommended.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  25. always runs with scissors fast
    irons with spray starch

    I have only had to have a doctor rip off the toe nail for infected ingrown toenails a few times, usually, I soak it for a bit in hot water, then clean and pry around it with manicure scissors. Then cut straight down at the side, and remove with tweezers. Works very well. No scrubs necessary. But never have any one else do this for you say like a good meaning husband, because you will scream and kick.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  26. YW Moderator-72
    Retired Moderator

    miritchka
    Member
    "i dont think Health is that off. (besides for the fact that he does have more medical knowledge than most of us)."

    ______________________________________________

    yes according to health (and now you) he is the medical gadol hador - but truth be told: to real Doctors - what is he?

    _________________________________________
    Note to health: As I have said before - I have nothing against you and IRL you are probably a very nice person. your screen persona (as many have pointed out) comes across as a know-it-all, pompous individual who looks down on those who dare disagree or post against you. Many people feel uncomfortable with your posting style. try toning it down a bit and other posters will have less trouble with how you say things (they may still object to what you say - but that is life in the blogosphere). go ahead have the last word.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  27. CAD: "its not bypass but can you say "gangrene"?"

    do you mean that seriously? Even if I butcher my toe-nail, where does gangrene come in?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  28. PBT
    Member

    Have the toenail removed by a podiatrist.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  29. Health
    Member

    YW Moderator-72 -"yes according to health (and now you) he is the medical gadol hador - but truth be told: to real Doctors - what is he?"

    This is my private info, which I don't intend on sharing. I've given way too much info about myself on this site. And the only reason I did that was because I only found out that people here were gathering others' info for nefarious purposes fairly recently.

    _________________________________________
    "Note to health: As I have said before - I have nothing against you and IRL you are probably a very nice person. your screen persona (as many have pointed out) comes across as a know-it-all, pompous individual who looks down on those who dare disagree or post against you. Many people feel uncomfortable with your posting style. try toning it down a bit and other posters will have less trouble with how you say things (they may still object to what you say - but that is life in the blogosphere). go ahead have the last word."

    I understand you have it in for me, but let me explain my point of view. When people come to YWN for medical advice -why do you think I post to them? I'll tell you -I do it as a Chessed.
    Since I haven't proven it to anybody what my credentials are -let's say you're right (even though you're not) that I just cut & paste -do you think I or anyone here would not cut & paste from a reliable site? I don't even consider Wikipedia like the other poster quoted as being sufficient/reliable enough for medical advice.
    Every time you come here screaming -warning the world not to rely on me, much more than anyone else because e/o here knows that info posted here is people's opinion -what do you accomplish? Even though I'm a medical professional, I'm giving the advice here casually - it's not considered professional advice as opposed if they saw me in a professional setting - in person.
    So you screaming constantly only at me, not others, can only cause one thing to occur - that the posters won't take my advice. This doesn't bother me because I got my Mitzva whether they listen or not. But are you doing a disservice to them because they might not listen to proper medical advice, even if this advice is only - acc. to you from cut & paste?
    Your psychological defense mechanisms will probably tell you that I'm just trying to manipulate you with this post, but try and take your Neigious out of it. There is no reason for me to post inaccurate info because I get nothing out of posting here -Not money or Kovod. So for me to Not make sure that my info is accurate would be doing a disservice to the posters and probably an Aveira. But like I said if you feel the need to constantly put me down and try to convince e/o not to listen to me, it's fine by me because I still get the Mitzva of helping others!

    P.S. - This post applies to Ctrl Alt Del as well!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  30. Health
    Member

    DaasYochid -"I always shut my phone off before performing bypass surgery."

    It's just funny the laymen's perception of Surgery. Actually, docs and others speak on the phone all the time during a surgery. We have less time to talk when we are other places. Ya -see during a surgery there is a lot of down time and others can take over for you most of the time, so Shmuzing of the wall phone or cell is quite common.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  31. yoya
    Member

    health- if your a dr. as you really say than how do you have so much time to post on this site??? most dr's i know barely have any down time let alone sit on a website posting all day... just sayin'

    Posted 2 years ago #
  32. TurtleBurglar
    Member

    The only possible way to ensure that the ingrown toenail doesnt return is to sever the infected toe. i recomend a screw driver and a hammer to succefully remove the toe.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  33. 2scents
    Mint and Raspberry

    TurtleBurglar:

    thats incorrect.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  34. real-brisker
    Now that's Brisk, Baby!

    Turtle - Why the need, this is a serious thread. Please don't give your trollish advice?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  35. crazybrit
    This Is A Failed Attempt At The Longest Subtitle In The Yeshiva World Coffee Room. However, as the old adage goes, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again". im on my 4th or 5th, it does keep growing, i wonder if its still a failed attempt!

    at the current minute turtle definitely seems the best advice,

    ouch,

    maybe not!

    layla tov people

    Posted 2 years ago #
  36. Ctrl Alt Del
    Wishes he could Ctrl Alt or Del some posts

    Just to be clear, I don't "have it in" for anyone. In cyberspace or otherwise. What irks me to no end though is people who masquerade as something that they are not especially. Perfect example: I walk around my hospital in scrubs as do many people including the housekeepers. Now unless you scrutinize our ID's you really don't know who or what we are. When people address me as "doctor" I correct them and continue the conversation. Whether is a clinical conversation or not. A co-worker of mine does not do this. They continue the conversation with the public as if they really are a physician. Its wrong. Even worse, if the conversation is clinical in nature the person receiving the advice or whatnot thinks this came from an MD. It didn't. And it could be the exact wrong advice. At least though if their ID would be scrutinized the public would realize the credentials of who they were talking to. There are no ID's here, so if you give out advice sounding all "medical-like", people will have the impression that you are a physician. I don't know if you are or not. You seem to be well read but not totally on the ball. I am up front with what I am. (well as much that will maintain my anonymity) If you are an MD, say so. Most likely you wouldn't give away your ID, I mean a Jewish doctor? Come on, there are millions. The point is, you seem to speak with authority, criticize others who may disagree with you, get defensive when called to the carpet, and are generally nasty with people you deem to be your inferior.
    And when called on it (because we are not inferior to you) you become unglued. A better way to disseminate medical advice/opinion would be to preface it by saying it is your opinion or advice. I guess you can sum up mine and 72's opinion that we think the public should always be aware that medical advice given over the net with no real title to rely on should be met with skepticism. Especially when its given "like a doctor". I'd even like to amend that, advice by a physician should also be limited by their specialty. I wouldn't ask an orthopedist to interpret an ECG. And if they did, I would double check with someone whose specialty required them to be experienced in that.

    PS: Someone had a question about gangrene. Its a long topic but take a look at wet and gas gangrene.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  37. Bar Shattya
    Official Dolt of the CR

    This is called "bathroom surgery." You take all the sharp non-kitchen items that you have, and sit down in the bathroom, and fix or so help you.

    Podiatrists are for babies and girls.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  38. HaLeiVi
    Plays the aeolian harp by air

    Health, that's a sobering thought. When we see you posting we know you are probably in middle of a surgery! So if someone here gets you mad it's not only your own heart that starts pumping.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  39. Health
    Member

    Ctrl Alt Del -"Just to be clear, I don't "have it in" for anyone."

    Well -I believe you are lying. Because if your Kavana here is to just warn e/o -go back and read all the posts and see you only warned e/o about me, but I wasn't the only one posting med info. And if you would have read my post above -I said my posting med info isn't to be considered professional advice. You seem to have a control issue (Gaava) -"I can be the only med prof. posting here (if you really are), noone else."

    Posted 2 years ago #
  40. mdlevine
    Member

    the "md" in my screen name has nothing do to with the medical field. I do not now do have I ever worked in the medical field.

    below is a few cut and paste selections from respected medical sites (mods - please keep the links) - I do not think that anyone posting here can argue with either of these sites.

    from U.S. National Library of Medicine - The World's Largest Medical Library:

    "Treatment

    If you have diabetes, nerve damage in the leg or foot, poor blood circulation to your foot, or an infection around the nail, go to the doctor right away.

    Do NOT try to treat this problem at home.

    To treat an ingrown nail at home:
    1. Soak the foot in warm water 3 to 4 times a day if possible. Keep the toe dry, otherwise.

    2. Gently massage over the inflamed skin.

    3. Place a small piece of cotton or dental floss under the nail. Wet the cotton with water or antiseptic.

    You may trim the toenail one time, if needed. When trimming your toenails:
    • Consider briefly soaking your foot in warm water to soften the nail.

    • Use a clean, sharp trimmer.

    • Trim toenails straight across the top. Do not taper or round the corners or trim too short.

    Do not try to cut out the ingrown portion of the nail yourself. This will only make the problem worse."

    From the mayo clinic:

    "You can typically treat ingrown toenails through lifestyle and home remedies, such as soaking your foot regularly in warm water and applying an antibiotic cream.

    If pain continues or there's pus or redness that seems to be spreading, see your doctor. You may need to have part of the nail removed and antibiotics prescribed for infection.

    Ingrown toenail treatments include:
    Lifting the nail. For a slightly ingrown nail (redness and pain but no discharge), your doctor may place cotton, dental floss or a splint under the edge of the nail to separate the nail from the overlying skin. This helps the nail eventually grow above the skin edge.

    Partially removing your nail. For a more severe ingrown toenail (redness, pain and pus), your doctor may trim or remove the ingrown portion of the nail. Before this procedure, your doctor may temporarily numb your toe by injecting it with an anesthetic.

    Removing nail and tissue. For a recurrent ingrown toenail, your doctor may suggest removing a portion of your toenail along with the underlying tissue (nail bed) to prevent that part of your nail from growing back. This procedure can be done with a chemical, a laser or other methods."

    _____________________
    So now we have 2 very respected sites saying certain simple things like soaking and lifting the nail is fine* to try at home but leave the cutting to the doctors.

    To recap: soaking, lifting and triming may be fine* - however more than that is dangerous and is strongly advised against.

    *re-read the first paragraph for those that should not even try these things at home and should go to the doctor right away.

    ________________
    For those dispensing medical advice on this board or on other boards - without knowing the full medical history and condition of the patient you may be correct in some aspect of what you say however without knowing all the particulars a patient may place themselves in jeopardy if they follow your advice. It is akin to someone calling a doctor whom they do not know and complaining of a sore throat and asking the doctor to call in a prescription to the local pharmacy without knowing the history of the patient and the other meds the patient is taking - it could be deadly and a doctor with proper ethics would never do this.

    the best advice was by those who said to call your doctor.

    perhaps this thread should be closed.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  41. popa_bar_abba
    Incorrigible; eccentric; somewhere between mean and average; sometimes only a bit over the top; arbitrarily engaged in cynicism.

    So, we have the doctors at the Mayo clinic telling us that we should hire doctors and pay them money.

    Sounds like a self dealing transaction to me.

    Occupy Mayo Clinic!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  42. Ctrl Alt Del
    Wishes he could Ctrl Alt or Del some posts

    Health, once again instead of addressing the problem you have chosen to make it about you. I think its someone other than me who has the gaavah problem. this is very typical of you. And yes, anyone can call up all of my posts and they are free to read them. they will find no personal insults and certainly no attack on you.

    mdlevine: Thank you for your candor and sourced medical quotes.

    PBA: You are a bit over the top, hilarious!!!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  43. Health
    Member

    Ctrl Alt Del -"Health, once again instead of addressing the problem you have chosen to make it about you."

    Wrong -there is no problem except in your puny mind. Most of your posts ever on this site was to call me out on something. I really feel bad for any patient(s) (if you really deal with any) that comes across your path. How about getting off your high horse?

    Posted 2 years ago #
  44. crazybrit
    This Is A Failed Attempt At The Longest Subtitle In The Yeshiva World Coffee Room. However, as the old adage goes, "If at first you don't succeed, try, try again". im on my 4th or 5th, it does keep growing, i wonder if its still a failed attempt!

    never mind the personal arguments going on out there!
    so tomorrow is my appointment and I want to share the temporary solution I found:
    2 * ibroprufen taken with around a cup of scotch every 5 hours or so,
    total bliss, (not so cheap)

    anyway thanks everyone for all your adviCe!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  45. yoya
    Member

    health- whoaaa!! calm down.. e/o is entitled to their own opinion. There's no need to look down on others who are just expressing their humble opinion.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  46. Health
    Member

    yoya - What does this mean -yoya?

    "e/o is entitled to their own opinion. There's no need to look down on others who are just expressing their humble opinion."

    Your post should have been addressed to him, not me.
    His opinions on this site usually has something to do with me -this is a long drawn out saga. Did you ever here of Shiva Devarim B'golim?
    And his opinion is definitely NOT humble!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  47. yoya
    Member

    health - yoya comes from my favorite song yoya by oif simchot:)
    and as far as ur argument with cntrl alt delete...he has a point as some of ur posts can come across a lil superior and authoritive almost. just sayin it might go a long way to soften what you say a little bit. People will respect you more for it, you'll see!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  48. Ctrl Alt Del
    Wishes he could Ctrl Alt or Del some posts

    Here we go loop dee loo, here we go loop dee laa. Those of you who know the tune sing along!! Its the same one trick pony. (Puny?) the truth is as a health care professional (which I think you are intimating that you are) YOU need to get ON a high horse and have some higher scruples. If you feel that you are being called out too many times, maybe you should reevaluate your content and tone on this site. I have seen posts where you disparage whole healthcare fields and people (nursing and the.Nurse for one). One again, WE ARE NOT INFERIOR TO YOU, WE ARE YOUR EQUAL WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT! And dare I say some of us may actually be superior to you. I have never come here to insult you. Though you have heaped insults on the rest of us. You happen to give some over the top opinions on certain fields, I never commented (so far as I can recall). You disparage and insult people who disagree with you, not a peep from me. The one thing I comment on is your somewhat off kilter medical advice given as though you are in a position of authority. And I feel that can be dangerous and is wrong. So I comment on it. I've got decades of patient care experience! Puny mind?? No real patient experience?? I'd wager that I have FORGOTTEN more medicine than you!! You have some nerve to treat people the way you do. You feel bad for my patients?? EVERY PRACTITIONER HERE THAT YOU HAVE ARGUED WITH HAS BESTED YOU ON MEDICAL AND STATISTICAL GROUNDS!! (not that I posted so at the time) I feel bad for YOUR patients if you have any!! The gall, the chutzpah!! The basic lack of midos is astounding. Look, I don't know if your a physician, a PA an RN or an EMT, or even just CPR certified, YOU SHOULDN'T TREAT PEOPLE THE WAY YOU HAVE BEEN! I have no further need to see any of your replies, It would just rehash the same old song. I've lost interest. This site makes me angry. I don't think I should come here anymore.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  49. Ctrl Alt Del
    Wishes he could Ctrl Alt or Del some posts

    BTW Brit, good for you. I hope you feel better soon. Foot pain can be debilitating, it just makes everything you do throughout the day a horrible chore. Refuah Sheleimah.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  50. Health
    Member

    Ctrl Alt Del -"the truth is as a health care professional (which I think you are intimating that you are)"

    Another rank out from the Ego man/lady!

    "YOU need to get ON a high horse and have some higher scruples."

    So you admit you are a Baal(as) Gaava!?!

    "If you feel that you are being called out too many times, maybe you should reevaluate your content and tone on this site."

    Only by you and Mod 72 regarding medicine.

    "I have seen posts where you disparage whole healthcare fields"

    Oh -Really? Where?

    "and people (nursing and the.Nurse for one). One again, WE ARE NOT INFERIOR TO YOU, WE ARE YOUR EQUAL WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT! And dare I say some of us may actually be superior to you."

    So you admit you are a nurse and you think some Nurses are superior to people who practice medicine and you say I'm the one with Gall and Chutzpah?!? How about looking in the mirror?

    "I've lost interest. This site makes me angry. I don't think I should come here anymore."

    I for one won't shed any tears for your departure!

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