"Good" Things About the Nine Days

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  • #604261
    SayIDidIt™
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    NO LAUNDRY!!!! (don’t remind me what happens after Tisha B’Av!)

    You can eat milchig chocolate and ice cream at anytime with out having to make crazy calculations if your flesigs!

    What else? Always find the good in life! ?

    SiDi™

    #1024627
    WIY
    Member

    Not sure this is productive for the 9 days. The 9 days are a bad time. We arent supposed to sugar coat it or lessen the badness of the time. On the contrary we are so far removed from even feeling what we should feel that we should try to go out of our way to feel the badness of the time, not try to be jolly. Mishenichnas Av memaatin besimcha.

    I know you meant well.

    #1024628
    dash™
    Participant

    Mishenichnas Av memaatin besimcha.

    Lessen, don’t eliminate.

    #1024629
    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    I don’t have to take anyone shopping.

    I have time to listen to lots of shiurim cuz the CD player is always free.

    #1024630
    haifagirl
    Participant

    I had a friend (now deceased) who said she always had mixed feelings about this time. Although it’s generally a sad time, her parents were liberated on 9 Av.

    #1024631
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    WIY: I know you meant well.

    Thanks!

    Syag: Why don’t you consider purchasing a mp3 player? SanDisk has the Sansa Clip+ which is very small yet excellent quality! You can find a brand new 4GB for around $35 online! Maybe get your kids to buy you one with a speaker for your birthday…

    SiDi™

    #1024632
    Be Happy
    Participant

    Our longing for Moshiach should become a lot stronger!

    #1024633
    557
    Participant

    Lessen, don’t eliminate.

    dash, although your statement seems perfectly logical, this is not necessarily correct. To see this, take a look at the Mishna Berurah 551:1, sif katan aleph. The shaar hatzion on that Mishna Berurah brings down a way to see things your way, but also a way to see things the Mishna Berurah’s way.

    #1024634
    Sam2
    Participant

    Dash: I believe whether or not it means to just lessen or to eliminate completely is two Dei’os in a Tosfos in Yevamos.

    #1024635
    seedys
    Participant

    My daughter was born in the 9 days. I asked my Rav many years ago, if we were allowed to celebrate her birthday with a party. He said, it was perfectly OK, as long as there is no music at the party.

    #1024636
    TheGoq
    Participant

    We can appreciate that the rest of the year we are not vegitarians carnivores rule!!!

    #1024637

    I’m with WIY on this one. We are *supposed* to be sad in the 9 days, not try to find thingst to be happy about.

    We should be doing this ‘seeing the good’ exercise when something we consider to be bad happens to us.

    #1024638

    I’m an omnivore.

    #1024639
    Kozov
    Member

    Lets face it plenty of people like fish and accapella. And mourning too! 🙂

    #1024640
    pcoz
    Member

    When Liszt met Tchaikofsky he was impressed by how mournful he was

    #1024641
    YW Band
    Member

    I chap arein with listening to shiurim. Go onto torahanytime.com for a full selection of shiurim on Tisha B’av from R’Krohn & R’Wallerstein who can set your tone for these days.

    A time to strengthen ourselves in ahavas yisrael (should be done whole year but at least in 3 weeks. Read gedolim stories like R’Scheinberg & R’Finkel who had the greatest ahavas yisrael of our dor! Iy”h by doing this it will speed Moshiach’s arrival!

    #1024642
    557
    Participant

    Iy”h by doing this it will speed Moshiach’s arrival!

    Moshiach will come when Hashem is good and ready for him to come. Our job is to learn Torah and do mitzvos and trust in Hashem. Period.

    #1024643
    Kozov
    Member

    There are maamorei razal that tell us that if we do something it will hasten moshiachs coming. For example gidola tzdaka shemikareves es hageula. What do you think that was for, informational purposes only?

    #1024644
    TheGoq
    Participant

    News Item:

    The Agriculture Department is under fire from ranchers and Capitol Hill after encouraging employees to go vegetarian one day a week and warning that meat production contributes to climate change.

    The department has since backed away from the statements, but not before causing a bovine brouhaha, particularly at a time when the drought is threatening America’s ranchers.

    “This move by USDA should be condemned by anyone who believes agriculture is fundamental to sustaining life on this planet,” said J.D. Alexander, president of the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association.

    The offending comments came in an online newsletter to employees about “greening” efforts. The update schooled employees on ways to save energy, by using energy-efficient light bulbs, installing specialized roofs on buildings — and participating in what’s known as the “Meatless Monday” initiative.

    think one day is hard try 9 in a row

    #1024645
    yytz
    Participant

    “We should be doing this ‘seeing the good’ exercise when something we consider to be bad happens to us.”

    But the Shulchan Aruch (I think OC 230:5) says one should always be accustomed to saying, “Everything the merciful one does is for the good.” Always. (It doesn’t say “always, except for the 9 days.”) Gamzu l’tovah is equally true during this time, so I think there’s nothing wrong with looking on the bright side even now (provided we’re mourning and decreasing our joy as required, etc.) Believing everything is for the best is a basic facet of emuna and bitachon, in which we are obligated at all times.

    #1024647
    557
    Participant

    think one day is hard try 9 in a row

    Shabbos. Twice this year.

    #1024648
    557
    Participant

    There are maamorei razal that tell us that if we do something it will hasten moshiachs coming. For example gidola tzdaka shemikareves es hageula. What do you think that was for, informational purposes only?

    Gedolim stories are not tzedaka.

    #1024649
    Kozov
    Member

    First of all i would assume he was talking about gaining ahavas yisroel from reading these stories after all that was the relevance of these stories to the 9 days. Second of all your response consequentially made a further reaching assumption than the scope of YWs comment which i adressed in my response.

    #1024650
    557
    Participant

    Kozov: I’m not sure what your first sentence is arguing on. As for your second sentence, while there are mamrei razal that say such things, it is not for us to make the cheshbon of how quickly moshiach will come. I feel like this was addressed in a recent thread someone.

    Anyway, since we don’t know when moshiach will come, it is impossible to know the extent that our tzedakah (in your example) hastens his coming. We have emunas chochamim that it will hasten his coming because razal said so. But how much so is impossible to determine. So our job is to learn Torah and do mitzvos and trust in Hashem. Moshiach will come when Hashem is good and ready for him to come.

    #1024651
    Kozov
    Member

    I dont see how not being able to do determine when or how has anything to do with why he does it. As for the first sentence, i was saying that these are not just gadol stories per say but something that had an uvechein in torah and mitzvos which is more likely to hasten moshiachs coming. Though admittedly i didnt explain why anything besides for tzdaka had a connection (though ahavas yisroel is connected to it). I probably got thrown off track because your response seemed to indicate that you were trying to completely contradict what i said by saying absolutely “gedolim stories is not tzedaka” when (in retrospect) clearly all it did was address a technical aspect in my response not the essence, which you waited to do till now, which i wonder about. In any case, consider the words of the rambam in Hilchos Tshuva Perek 3 Halacha 4:

    ???? ?? ??? ????? ???? ?? ???? ???? ????? ???? ???? ????? ????. ??? ?? ????? ???? ???? ????? ????. ??? ??? ??? ??? ????? ?? ???? ??? ?? ????? ???? ??? ???? ???? ?? ?????. ??? ???? ??? ??? ????? ?? ???? ??? ?? ????? ???? ??? ???? ???? ?? ???? ????? ????? ????? ????? ???? ???? ?? ???? ????? ?? ?? ????? ????? ??????. ????? ???? ?? ???? ?? ??? ????? ?????? ????? ??????? ????? ?????? ????? ???? ???? ??? ??? ??????? ??? ??? ????. ????? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ??? ??????? ???? ?????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?? ????? ????:

    #1024652
    557
    Participant

    Kozov: Sorry, but I just don’t know exactly what we are arguing about, if anything.

    #1024653
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    Syag: Why don’t you consider purchasing a mp3 player? SanDisk has the Sansa Clip+ which is very small yet excellent quality! You can find a brand new 4GB for around $35 online! Maybe get your kids to buy you one with a speaker for your birthday…

    I wanna add: Also, they should get a 16 or better yet, a 32 oz. Double Gulp to go with that!

    #1024654
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    OOPS!!! I meant a 16 or 32 GB Micro SD Card (preferably SanDisk)

    Tons more room for Shiurim (and music!)

    Sincerest apologies to His Majesty Herr Bloom’s Salty Potato Chips Fried in Oil! 🙂

    #1024655
    Ðash®
    Participant

    I wanna add: Also, they should get a 16 or better yet, a 32 oz. Double Gulp to go with that!

    A Double Gulp isn’t 32 ounces, it used to be 64 and currently is 50. Also it is not twice as large as a Gulp, which is only 20 ounces. If you want 32 ounces you need a Big Gulp.

    #1024656
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    SiDi™

    #1024657
    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    <Waaaaaay off topic>

    Thanks SiDi™, I actually bought one of those for my son in yeshiva ‘cuz it was the only thing out there that does not list video capability on the box. The oddest thing happened to me though, befitting for Tisha B’av actually. Tisha B’av was my brothers last kadish for my sister as it is 11 months now since she died. Thinking of that, I was looking through some of her stuff since I was sad anyway, and found a walkman in the pocket of her backpack. I emptied it today so I could fill it with shiurim. It was a horribly painful process but I did it.

    Regarding Double Gulps – How did you know????? My kids are slurpee-holics but I have always had a serious Double Gulp addiction. Ever since the 64 oz days. When I was sitting shiva for my other sister I had just gotten back from seminary two days before and someone brought a double gulp to the shiva house knowing how much I missed them.

    #1024658
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    Syag: I know I’m like 11 months late, but its still ‘in the year’, so: HaMakom Yinachem Eschem B’Soch Shor Avwlwy Zion V’Yerushalayim…

    May you, your family and all of Klal Yisroel know no more pain!

    SiDi™

    #1024660
    🍫Syag Lchochma
    Participant

    Thank you, that was very kind.

    #1024661
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    Coffee with milk anytime! Don’t have to figure out if I’m fleshing!

    SiDi™

    #1024662
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    <off topic>I know this is off topic, however, above I suggested Syag should purchase a Sansa Clip+ and a 16 or 32 GB Micro SD card. I think I was mistaken because the Clip+ can not handle a 32 GB card. Hope noone took my advice.

    </off topic>

    SiDi™

    #1024663
    ari-free
    Participant

    The one good thing is that you really really look forward to Shabbos

    #1024664
    FillTheClock
    Member

    This isn’t really a good thing about the 9 days, but I am trying to have people commit to learn or say Tehillim a few minutes extra every day specifically in hone zchus of the situation in eretz Yisrael. My hope is to have a 24 hour rotation of learning from people all over the world. Would anyone like to participate or help me spread the word?

    #1024665
    SayIDidIt™
    Participant

    FillTheClock, why don’t you start a new thread? People are not going to notice this stuck in middle of a thread. Hatzlacha!

    SiDi™

    #1024666
    147
    Participant

    Best part of the 9 days compared to Asseres Yemei Teshuvo:- No Selichos to worry about. Regular Davening and no extra pressures to keep up with Selichos.

    #1024667
    ari-free
    Participant

    yes, but you get to eat meat during the Aseres so who cares

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