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    popa_bar_abba
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    You think they didn’t ferment the dough because they didn’t have time to?

    For 200 years they’ve been eating nonfermented dough, and now they’re free, you think all of a sudden they start fermenting their dough? They probably didn’t even know how!

    I think Hashem is sort of “covering” for us. We’re eating matza now because “we didn’t have time” to let it rise. Of course we only eat the finest fermented bread otherwise.

    #1011915
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    You think they didn’t ferment the dough because they didn’t have time to?

    Isn’t that what it says in the passuk?

    #1011916
    popa_bar_abba
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    It is what it says. And I believe they didn’t have enough time.

    I’m just astounded that that is the main reason they didn’t bring along risen bread, as opposed to that they didn’t even think of it.

    What do you think?

    #1011917
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    I think that even though their main staple over the years of shibud was matza, they probably had bread also.

    #1011918
    Sam2
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    The point is that they wanted to eat bread. Matzah was the staple of the slave and they wanted bread to celebrate being free. But they had to leave too early for this planned bread to rise.

    #1011919
    twisted
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    derech agav, i saw a entry in Kovetz Hamoadim, claiming that chametz is when the dough relaxes (bitul hitnagdut temicha in the ori ginal). With our modern grains, a 5-10 minute knead causes the proteins to get stringy, that forms a more pliant product. This theory eases the understanding of some halacha, but it does match up with others. It might be that the lafa type matza is kneaded for longer that a standard matza. Back to the question, is it not possible that they did not have the ten minutes, have you never been short ten minutes that you cannot relate?

    #1011921
    HaLeiVi
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    Rav Ben-Zion Wosner wrote about that. He showed from many angles how this is the case.

    Matzoh is about Yetzias Mitzraim, not the Avdus. There is the Pshat on Di Achalu Avhasana which the Abudarham quotes that they give this to Avadim.

    #1011922
    mobico
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    Ancient Egypt is where modern encyclopedias claim the concept of fermenting dough originated. Even if the Yidden in Mitzrayim didn’t usually eat it, they certainly knew what it was, and they probably would have chosen it as their food had they had the time to prepare it.

    #1011923
    oomis
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    My understanding is that they did not leave Mitzrayim until the next morning. SO how did they NOT have enough time to make bread? I think we eat matzah because Hashem Said to eat matzah.

    #1011924
    IDKeither
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    I have heard the following: True they didn’t leave until the next morning, but because they had brought the Korban Pesach on the fourteenth which the day which a person brings a Korban is a personal Yom Tov and prior to Matan Torah our days started in the morning and were followed by the night (as opposed to after Matan Torah when the day begins with the preceding night) therefore, that night was actually part of their Yom Tov and cooking for the next day was prohibited as it would be prepping on Yom Tov for after Yom Tov.

    #1011925
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    My understanding is that they did not leave Mitzrayim until the next morning. SO how did they NOT have enough time to make bread? I think we eat matzah because Hashem Said to eat matzah.

    The Torah says they didn’t have enough time.

    #1011926
    Sam2
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    IDK: Umm… first of all, that night was the 15th of Nissan anyway when the Torah specifically says you can’t do Melacha (to them in Mitzrayim). And it specifically says Ochel Nefesh is Muttar. So I don’t see your point. At all.

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